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The Cant Chat/Cant Spectate/Cant Play Thread

Postby Dybdal on Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:41 pm

EDIT: FOUND THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM

OK everyone i have some good news and some bad news!
The good news is that i've found the solution to this problem, the bad news is that its a router malfunction

For the past 1-1½ weeks i've done about everything you can do to pin point this problem.

I started out at the beginning, trying to figure out if it was something to do with a perticular operating system so i installed everything from Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista and Linux without success so i crossed that off the list of possible solutions, so i went back to Windows Vista and went though the different Port Forwarding options discribed in the FAQ without any luck after that i called a Network Tech Support geek over and he tested everything he could to see what the problem was and he concluded that even though my 6000-6009 ports were indeed flaged as being open they were only able to send data and not recieve anything propperly, he could not see any problem with the 7000 TCP port at all but when trying to trace the danish internet hub Jay.net it would still come back very sketchy.. so he could not say with 110% certainly that there wasnt a problem with the TCP protocols aswell.

After that we both had a talk with the head tech support person at my ISP (Yousee.dk) and after a discussion that went back and forth for about 30 minutes, he agreed to send every possible Router/Modem that my ISP could offer its customers for me to test out as that was the last possible solution if it indeed true that 6000-6009 and 7000 was not blocked by them.

I went though testing a brand new model of the same Modem with built in router/firewall that i allready had and nothing changed, i then tested one of their older Netgear modems with built in router.. and it still didnt work. But after all of that i tested their last product, a Webstar Modem without any Router or Firewall built in.. and it worked like a charm.

So to sum all of this up, if your having this perticular problem its caused by a malfunctioning router and by malfunctioning i dont mean that its broken, i mean its a crappy product.. i've talked to about 50+ people on other forums who are having trouble doing any port forwarding with my old router and all of them were solved by getting a newer, better one.

Allmost every ISP will have more than one Modem you can choose from but will on automatic send their most crappy, user friendly one as default.. your best bet is to pickup the phone and talk to your ISP and tell them you want a plain Modem without any Router or Firewall functions in and then buy your own router to hook up inbetween your new modem and computer.

So good luck everyone, and see you all online!

Note to the mods, making a thread to collect information regarding the perticular routers that does not work with GGPO might be prudent.
Last edited by Dybdal on Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:17 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: The Cant Chat/Cant Spectate/Cant Play Thread

Postby Dybdal on Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:42 pm

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 920 Processor (2.80Ghz)
Motherboard: ? (Will post later when i remember what its called)
Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce GTX 285
Network Adapter: Using onboard motherboard adapter
RAM: 8GB
OS: Windows Vista Home Basic (64bit)

Location: Denmark
Internet provider: Yousee.dk

Modem/Router: Netgear CVG824G

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Please provide a image of your settings of these things.

Are the propper ports forwarded? (6000-6009 UDP, 7000 TCP)
Yes

Are you using a static IP adress?
Yes

Are you using a Firewall? (if so have you tryed running GGPO with the firewall turned off?)
Windows firewall (and i have tryed running GGPO without it, dosnt change)

Have you checked if your hostfile has the entry "127.0.0.1 localhost"?
Yes

Have you been in contact with your Internet Service Provider to ensure that non of the required ports to use GGPO is blocked by them?
Yes and they ensure me they are not blocked

Please provide a screenshot that contains your Static ip settings, hostfile, a command promt img of "ipconfig /all" and your port forward settings:
http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/9918/ggpodata.jpg
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Re: The Cant Chat/Cant Spectate/Cant Play Thread

Postby Irish-Ken on Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:24 pm

I used to use GGPO a bit about a year and a half ago. Its installed on both my laptop and my PC and worked fine.

Now that Ibuki is announced for SSF4 I've been wanting to play some 3s and since 2df is dead I've been trying GGPO.

The same installs that use to work. But now I have this horrible problem with no solution. On BOTH machines.

So my specs are irrelevant, the only thing that has changed since when I used to be able to play is my ISP and router.

Location: Ireland

ISP: UPC/NTL

Router: Cisco EPC2425

Yes I have port forwarded

Yes I've tried it with out a firewall

No I've not checked this hostfile thing since I dunno how.

Not contacted the ISP yet, will update when I do.
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Re: The Cant Chat/Cant Spectate/Cant Play Thread

Postby Dybdal on Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:50 pm

Irish-Ken

You mention having 2 machines working on a different ISP, are you aware if that was in a earlyer GGPO build? or is it the same as the current one?
Also when you changed ISP did you change your router/modem? and last but not least have you reinstalled your 2 computers between GGPO working and now? (changed operating system perhaps?)

*. Oh and this seems importent

If anyone has a working GGPO client with the same router and or ISP as one of the people who is having these problems .. please do respond to this thread, as that could prove to be very telling.
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Re: The Cant Chat/Cant Spectate/Cant Play Thread

Postby Giygas on Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:15 pm

Don't know if this helps anybody :/ but if (before spectating - playing) you open ggpofba and turn off the sound (click on AUDIO, sound disabled) you can't play with the sound disabled :/ maybe it's just me but you should try and see what happens..
EDIT = jaja i've read the faq AFTER posting XD still, what's the technical reason as to why you can't play with the sound disabled? hmm
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Re: The Cant Chat/Cant Spectate/Cant Play Thread

Postby 002 on Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:42 am

I appreciate what you guys are trying to do here.
As part of your template you should add

"Have I read the FAQ?"
"Have I considered everything the FAQ says?"
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Re: The Cant Chat/Cant Spectate/Cant Play Thread

Postby FronkCustle on Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:59 pm

Same issue, never been able to use GGPO, but 2df (supercade now) works perfectly fine, as well as just about every other port-requiring application in existence. I have a wired connection, I have tried with static IPs, dynamic, whatever, nothing works

Location: US

ISP: Comcast

Router: Comcast CG814WG


my port settings
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Re: The Cant Chat/Cant Spectate/Cant Play Thread

Postby Dybdal on Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:39 pm

Edit'ed the OP with the solution to this problem.
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